Hello Lorenz,

On 03/11/24(Sun) 11:02, Lorenz (xha) wrote:
> hi,
> 
> arm64 is currently broken without swap, processes are "randomly"
> getting killed.  this is very easy to reproduce by booting without
> swap.  daemons such as smtpd or ntpd, or the kernel/lib relink will
> crash.

Yes, swap is not optional to run OpenBSD.  That said your experiment is
interesting in itself and exposes border cases conditions which are not
so easy to trigger.

> 
> this is caused by one of the following switch cases in
> do_el0_sync() (arm64/trap.c), which is called by "handle_el0_sync":
> 
> 370         switch (exception) {
> 
> 397         case EXCP_INSN_ABORT_L:
> 398                 udata_abort(frame, esr, far, 1);
> 399                 break;
> 
> 410         case EXCP_DATA_ABORT_L:
> 411                 udata_abort(frame, esr, far, 0);
> 412                 break;
> 
> these call udata_abort(), which, among other things, calls uvm_fault():
> 
> 110         /* Handle referenced/modified emulation */
> 111         if (pmap_fault_fixup(map->pmap, va, access_type))
> 112                 return;
> 113
> 114         error = uvm_fault(map, va, 0, access_type);
> 115
> 116         if (error == 0) {
> 117                 uvm_grow(p, va);
> 118                 return;
> 119         }
> 120
> 121         if (error == ENOMEM) {
> 122                 sig = SIGKILL;
> 123                 code = 0;
> 
> 134         sv.sival_ptr = (void *)far;
> 135         trapsignal(p, sig, esr, code, sv);
> 
> uvm_fault() fails with ENOMEM and udata_aobrt() then sends SIGKILL to
> the process.
> 
> in uvm_fault(), there are only two functions which could return
> ENOMEM: uvm_fault_lower() and uvm_fault_upper().  both of these
> functions have branches, that, if they *think* that they are out
> of memory, check if uvm_swapisfull().  if that is the case, they
> return with ENOMEM, otherwise they wait for more RAM.  of course,
> uvm_swapisfull() always returns true if there is no swap!

Indeed.  The assumption here is that there's no way to free pages if
there is no available swap space.

> i have observed a few interesting thing when building the kernel
> on arm64 without swap.  first, make without any "-j" flags works,
> no processes are getting killed.  second, when running with make
> "-j2" or "-j4", processes are going to get killed, usually cc.
> however, after repeating this for three or four times, the build
> will work without processes getting killed.
> 
> i have tested this issue on an "Raspberry Pi 4 Model B" and
> Firefly iCore-3588Q ("MNT RK3588 Processor Module").
> 
> i want to debug this further, since i have to investigate another,
> probably related, pmap/uvm issue anyways.  however, before that i
> wanted to ask if someone has dug into this issue or has any clues
> on what could be going on.  thanks!

You could look at how much memory is used to cache buffers in the VFS.
This might be the reason why successive "make -j" work.