Hi Nick Owens,

do you have a minimal test setup to to reproduce that? Comments below.

On Sat Feb 28, 2026 at 10:59:22PM -0800, Nick Owens wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 04:34:08PM -0800, Nick Owens wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 10:15:20PM -0800, Nick Owens wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2026 at 03:51:11PM +1000, Paul W. Rankin wrote:
> > > > > On 04/02/2026 1:58 PM AEST mischief () offblast ! org wrote:
> > > > > 	this was brought up by rnkn on IRC, 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm just looping myself in here. Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > one approach is to return negative cko_tlen back to rsae_send_imsg. this
> > > might result in some broken tls connections, but its better than taking
> > > down all of relayd.
> > > 
> > > a better fix would probably be to temporarily stop processing rsa ops
> > > altogether while reload is happening, but i'm not sure of a good
> > > approach for that.
> > > 
> > > Index: ca.c
> > > ===================================================================
> > > RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.sbin/relayd/ca.c,v
> > > diff -u -p -r1.45 ca.c
> > > --- ca.c        21 Nov 2024 13:21:34 -0000      1.45
> > > +++ ca.c        4 Feb 2026 06:03:33 -0000
> > > @@ -234,9 +234,15 @@ ca_dispatch_relay(int fd, struct privsep
> > >                         fatalx("%s: invalid relay proc", __func__);
> > >                 if (IMSG_DATA_SIZE(imsg) != (sizeof(cko) + cko.cko_flen))
> > >                         fatalx("%s: invalid key operation", __func__);
> > > -               if ((pkey = pkey_find(env, cko.cko_hash)) == NULL)
> > > -                       fatalx("%s: invalid relay hash '%s'",

Yes I think this is to aggressive during a reload process.

> > > +               if ((pkey = pkey_find(env, cko.cko_hash)) == NULL) {
> > > +                       log_warnx("%s: invalid relay hash '%s'",
> > >                             __func__, cko.cko_hash);
> > > +                       cko.cko_tlen = -1;
> > > +                       if (proc_compose_imsg(env->sc_ps, PROC_RELAY, cko.cko_proc,
> > > +                           imsg->hdr.type, -1, -1, &cko, sizeof(cko)) == -1)
> > > +                               log_warn("%s: proc_composev_imsg", __func__);
> > > +                       break;
> > > +               }
> > >                 if ((rsa = EVP_PKEY_get1_RSA(pkey)) == NULL)
> > >                         fatalx("%s: invalid relay key", __func__);

If we go this way, we need to handle this too.

> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > ping. here is an alternate approach to stop processing imsgs from PROC_RELAY by removing the events during reload, but when testing i still had client connections get empty replies, closed early, or the rsa op timed out. however, relayd also does not crash.

The fix replaces a crash with a broken connection? 

> 
> ping again. i hope this will be fixed for the next release.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > diff --git a/usr.sbin/relayd/ca.c b/usr.sbin/relayd/ca.c
> > index e54259c5971..89f7f48685e 100644
> > --- a/usr.sbin/relayd/ca.c
> > +++ b/usr.sbin/relayd/ca.c
> > @@ -204,9 +204,11 @@ ca_dispatch_parent(int fd, struct privsep_proc *p, struct imsg *imsg)
> >  		break;
> >  	case IMSG_CTL_START:
> >  		ca_launch();
> > +		proc_unblock(p->p_ps, PROC_RELAY);
> >  		break;
> >  	case IMSG_CTL_RESET:
> >  		config_getreset(env, imsg);
> > +		proc_block(p->p_ps, PROC_RELAY);
> >  		break;
> >  	default:
> >  		return -1;
> > diff --git a/usr.sbin/relayd/proc.c b/usr.sbin/relayd/proc.c
> > index 3eb00aa0381..56a49120cb4 100644
> > --- a/usr.sbin/relayd/proc.c
> > +++ b/usr.sbin/relayd/proc.c
> > @@ -682,6 +682,38 @@ proc_dispatch_null(int fd, struct privsep_proc *p, struct imsg *imsg)
> >  	return (-1);
> >  }
> >  
> > +void
> > +proc_block(struct privsep *ps, enum privsep_procid id)
> > +{
> > +	struct imsgev *iev;
> > +	int n, m;
> > +
> > +	n = -1;
> > +
> > +	proc_range(ps, id, &n, &m);
> > +
> > +	for(; n < m; n++){
> > +		iev = &ps->ps_ievs[id][n];
> > +		event_del(&iev->ev);
> > +	}
> > +}
> > +
> > +void
> > +proc_unblock(struct privsep *ps, enum privsep_procid id)
> > +{
> > +	struct imsgev *iev;
> > +	int n, m;
> > +
> > +	n = -1;
> > +
> > +	proc_range(ps, id, &n, &m);
> > +
> > +	for(; n < m; n++){
> > +		iev = &ps->ps_ievs[id][n];
> > +		event_add(&iev->ev, NULL);
> > +	}
> > +}
> > +
> >  /*
> >   * imsg helper functions
> >   */
> > diff --git a/usr.sbin/relayd/relayd.h b/usr.sbin/relayd/relayd.h
> > index 3b5c3987f93..697c3bd8b48 100644
> > --- a/usr.sbin/relayd/relayd.h
> > +++ b/usr.sbin/relayd/relayd.h
> > @@ -1451,6 +1451,8 @@ int	 imsg_compose_event(struct imsgev *, uint16_t, uint32_t,
> >  	    pid_t, int, void *, uint16_t);
> >  int	 imsg_composev_event(struct imsgev *, uint16_t, uint32_t,
> >  	    pid_t, int, const struct iovec *, int);
> > +void	 proc_block(struct privsep *, enum privsep_procid);
> > +void	 proc_unblock(struct privsep *, enum privsep_procid);
> >  
> >  /* config.c */
> >  int	 config_init(struct relayd *);
> 

Is a workaround and not a fix for the root of the problem. Are you
agree?