Hello Walter.

Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote in
 <pbOugBnFYYMrtfF3iWe98jn@chancha.roquesor.com>:
 |On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:25:34 +0200 Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
 |> Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote in
 |>  <ZsbcZ_42h6xQdqih@chancha.roquesor.com>:
 ...
 |[.] Surely you also usually visit
 |mutt-dev@ and noticed the patches I proposed to be able to change the
 |keyboard shortcut of the abort command to 'Esc' which, as happens with
 |many ncurses based applications, is deeply hardcoded to the
 |emacs-user-friendly Ctrl-G.  When I posted there my first proposal, in

Yes, but i did not follow closely, and have somewhat forgotten
about it in addition.  From memory you did not write a proper
patch that makes this a user option, by default disabled?
Other than that i cannot imagine why this hm quite understandable
feature request was not supported.  But it is like i said, it flew
by long ago, like that tmux thing just recently, i also have
forgotten about that already (again).

 |2017, I received many objections from users (which caught my attention
 |being a mailing list for developers,) I dare to say most of them were
 |"needlessly fanciful" objections.  I don't know how many people took
 |care of the maintenance of Mutt back then but it gave me the impression
 |that it was only one guy and the same that is still taking care of it
 |today.  He took advantage of the objections of users to disengage from

Seems to me Kevin McCarthy stepped back and is in plain
maintenance mode.  You are not alone with having a patch that was
not accepted, by the way.

 |my proposal, he did not even look at my patches.  At that moment he was
 |very busy with some SSL issue which many would think it's a more
 |important matter than adding some key binding to the interface, right?
 |Well, if you understand that a MUA is a "user interface", and features
 |like SMTP, IMAP, POP2, SSL are (or at least should be) better handled by
 |software designed and maintained for that purpose, you see that it's
 |exactly the opposite.  A MUA maintainer should have more time and space
 |to attend to a user interface related issue than a SSL one.

Hmmmmmmm

 |Which is the current trend, the tackier people are, the more addicted
 |they are to accessories.  "What, your hammer doesn't have wifi?!"  Of
 |course, removing the handle from the hammer to make it safer is the
 |other extreme of idiocy.  Common sense is a rare gem today.

'Seems to me there is a tremendous amount of common sense,
unfortunately under quite a lot of pressure.

 |As a side note.  From this it can be deduced what I think of your s-nail
 |project.  Anyway, I'd expressed my opinion to you privately years ago, I
 |hope I didn't offend you with what I said.

Oh, .. i remember graphics of your wife, which i liked very much!
I have so few time for the MUA, but it is hm hobby, and it gets
better; v14.10 will be "Mountains O' Things", but still suffers
from the strict BSD Mail separation of send path and otherwise.
Shall i live long enough it will see v15 though.

--steffen
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|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)