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From:
Crystal Kolipe <kolipe.c@exoticsilicon.com>
Subject:
Re: sndio: show the real device name in server.device control
To:
Alexandre Ratchov <alex@caoua.org>, tech@openbsd.org, jmc@kerhand.co.uk
Date:
Thu, 7 Mar 2024 14:37:23 -0300

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  • Alexandre Ratchov:

    sndio: show the real device name in server.device control

  • On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 10:28:37AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
    > Crystal Kolipe <kolipe.c@exoticsilicon.com> wrote:
    > 
    > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 01:17:22PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
    > > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 08:26:46AM -0300, Crystal Kolipe wrote:
    > > > > With this first version of the code, these strings are unique.  Do we
    > > > > intend to guarantee this when the names are expanded to include further
    > > > > chipset information?
    > > > > 
    > > > 
    > > > You're right, the display strings can't be unique,
    > > > unfortunately. Furthermore, currently they are not stable with time.
    > > > 
    > > > > If not, should we mention this somewhere to avoid userland code relying
    > > > > on behaviour that will change later on?
    > > > > 
    > > > 
    > > > Sure. Something like this?
    > > 
    > > Looks good, but I think we should s/no/nor
    > > 
    > > Cc'ed Jason for a second opinion on this.
    > > 
    > > > 
    > > > --- a/libsndio/sioctl_open.3
    > > > +++ b/libsndio/sioctl_open.3
    > > > @@ -244,6 +244,7 @@ The
    > > >  .Fa display
    > > >  attribute contains an optional free-format string providing additional
    > > >  hints about the control, like the hardware model, or the units.
    > > > +It is neither unique at a given time, no stable with time.
    > > 
    > >  +It is neither unique at a given time, nor stable with time.
    > > 
    > > ( Maybe s/with/over/ as well? )
    > > 
    > 
    > 
    > I have no idea what that sentence means.
    
    Maybe:
    
    It is neither unique at a given time, nor stable _over_ time.
    
    would be better English than:
    
    It is neither unique at a given time, nor stable _with_ time.
    
    
    
  • Alexandre Ratchov:

    sndio: show the real device name in server.device control